Nov
23
2009

asian american centric hbd?

i have recently became aware that liberals exist who have looked at the available data and have become convinced of the reality of hbd. one of these liberals is now struggling to reconcile hbd views and liberalism.

i appreciate this effort b/c i’ve stated previously that if liberals ignore this area of inquiry, they automatically cede the intellectual ground to conservatives and outright racists. i say this even though i’m not a liberal. i just happen to value divergent points of view as long as they are based on evidence and not ignorance, even if that evidence points to reality being pretty ugly. but what of asian-americans that might hold hbd views?

generally, ppl who believe and espouse hbd hold conservative views, even if they tended to hold more liberal values before learning about hbd. i don’t hold the same views as most hbd’ers, but my views have become more conservative in general. actually, i rather despise many hbd’ers and their suggested policy options, but it’s difficult to fault their logic. if i were white and an hbd’er, i’d likely hold views similar to theirs. one main reason my views don’t gel w/ other hdb’ers is that i’m a minority.

since hbd elevates the importance of race in policy to an even higher position than it has now, white hdb’ers tend to be virulent anti-immigrationists. this view doesn’t (necessarily) proceed from racism, but rather from logic. since different groups have different avg IQs, and IQ appears to be heritable, it makes sense to keep low IQ groups such as illegal immigrant mexicans out of the US. hispanic children start lagging in cognitive tests at the age of 2!

it makes sense to advocate that repeat welfare recipients should be  sterilized in order to continue getting welfare. if the recipients need to be supported by the state, they should pay in terms of their reproductive fitness.

it makes sense to advocate wholly dispensing w/ affirmative action b/c it won’t work. children from high-income black families score lower on standardized tests than children from low-income white families (regression toward the mean), so biasing educational slots and jobs to low IQ minorities doesn’t mean the minorities will be able to pass on their lifestyle to their kids.

but even as i see how these policy recommendations flow logically from the evidence, i either don’t agree with them or more likely i simply don’t care. i believe this comes from the very nature of the hbd outlook. hbd forces its believers to find that race and sex matter in determining the likelihood of certain life outcomes. the hbd that i read about comes from mostly white male bloggers who are out to preserve or enhance their own biological and philosophical position in the nation and the world. they openly lament the decline of the west even though the rise of the east means humanity will advance, even if they don’t.

i frankly could care less about their position now or in the future. i’m not white, so why should i support any of their efforts to sustain themselves at the expense of others? east asians are in the enviable position of being on top of the hbd food chain (except for ashkenazi jews who aren’t very numerous and basically white anyways). they have the highest avg iq and are predicted to have the best avg life outcomes.

some of these bloggers are neutral about east asian immigration, but few actively encourage it even though it would counter the IQ decline caused by mexican immigration. here they fall back on justifying measures to keep asians out to protect “american” jobs. the idiocy of this is that if hbd holds true, a large number of these jobs simply won’t be created or stay in the US in the future. they’ll go to asians in asian nations who will spend their hard earned cash in asia. as mentioned previously here, some asians are already returning to asia b/c of better career opportunities.

it’s tempting to advocate an asian-american stance wrt to hbd. but i find that even while i am indifferent to the views of whites and support an apparently inevitable rise in the position of asians and asian americans, i don’t feel much like crowing about it. i view it as being unacceptably rude to ppl who were simply unlucky in birth, as condescending as that may sound. also, the egalitarianism ingrained in me from supporting asian american causes in college hasn’t completely evaporated. i don’t have the will to support something as nasty as asian american centric hbd. but asian born asians wouldn’t have this issue as they still hold contentious racial views. i suppose that i’d view positively asian attempts at producing an asian centric hbd worldview, but simply wouldn’t have the heart to do it myself. either that or maybe i’m just lazy and like to overthink things in the short term but have no long term ambitions in this area. take your pick.

in fact, i think that lee kuan yew may have espoused something just like asian centric hbd, but i’ll need to do some reading to be sure. i’m relatively positive that at least malaysia’s former prime minister (i forget which one atm) has already explained their nation’s affirmative action policy as a result of hbd.


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